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Submitted by Jim Brown on September 9, 2009 - 10:22pm


To bridge the two blog posts of the evening...

Obama should invite Joe Wilson to the Whitehouse, and the two should hold a joint press conference denouncing the current state of the debate. Wilson admits that he let his emotions get the best of him. It would be a masterstroke by both Obama and Wilson (one member of Congress has already said that Wilson will "pay the price") to treat this controversy as a starting point for a new kind of debate rather than as one more in a series of ridiculous episodes (death panels, town hall shout downs, etc.)

Just a thought...

Submitted by Jim Brown on September 17, 2009 - 8:13am.

I see your point, and I would love for a public discussion about race. A discussion that didn't devolve into a screaming match. But given the fact that opponents of Obama feel completely comfortable saying things like "I'm scared. I want MY America back." (i.e. I want "white" America back.) And given that any claim that such statements are racist are met with cries of "Oh, so any critique of the president is racist?" And given that currently we have no viable way of having a "conversation" about race in this country, all...

Well, given all of these things (and more), I do think it was a step in the right direction. It was not perfect. It may have served to smooth over the actual nastiness of the debate. It may have swept it under the carpet. But it also may have suggested to a few people out there that a conversation is possible. It's a baby step, but it's a baby step that is necessary. We can't have the public conversation until we agree to actually converse.

Maybe meeting for a beer was a way to model discussion. There aren't very many of these models these days. Instead, we (rhetoricians included) spend our time talking about Joe Wilson instead of health care. We deal with censures instead of issues.

Like I said, I'm with you...to an extent. I would have preferred a public conversation. But where exactly would such a conversation happen? And how might we imagine such a conversation (at the present cultural/historical moment) not turning into an opportunity for Sean Hannity to call his supporters "great Americans" and Keith Olberman to call Hannity an idiot...and on and on and on.

Submitted by lucaites on September 12, 2009 - 1:15pm.

The "beer summit" was a little bit more than just annoying. It took a subject--racial profiling-- that should have been a matter of public discussion and located it quite clearly as a "private matter." That the private matter was put on something of a public display for all to see at a distance (but not to hear!) doesn't mitigate how the issue got framed or the "teachable moment" that was taught. So I'm not so sure that it was a step in the right direction.

Submitted by lucaites on September 10, 2009 - 8:36am.

Maybe they could have a beer together?

Submitted by Jim Brown on September 10, 2009 - 5:19pm.

But given the fact that many people think Joe Wilson is a hero speaking truth to power (no surprise there), it seems unlikely that he'd be willing to use this opportunity for a photo-op/reconciliation. He'll probably be able to use it to as a fundraising opportunity (how depressing).

The "beer together" episode, while a bit annoying, was at least a step in the right direction.