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Gospel of Judas


Submitted by ddd on April 2, 2007 - 4:20am


There's an interesting piece in Salon.com today on the newly unearthed Gospel of Judas that is pretty interesting. It's an interview with Elaine Pagels, author of many books, including Adam, Eve, and the Serpant (which blew me away as a grad student) and The Gnostic Gospels, as well as this new one: Reading Judas: The Gospel of Judas and the Shaping of Christianity (with Karen L. King). Lot's of bloggin' on it already, according to the Technorati. Part of the discussion involves the necessarily metaphoric language (already a redundancy) of religion and the Bible. Love to hear thoughts from some of you who scored higher than a 79 on the Bible quiz Jim posted a while back. :)

Submitted by commiekris on April 3, 2007 - 5:43pm.

I'm following the lead of Paik and Joanne Swenson in my 2nd thesis chapter that says Literalists like LaHaye and Jenkins are more Gnostic than Christian. The "age of accountability" in the LB novels, in which all children under the age of 10 are Raptured, seems to deny the presence of Original Sin.

I read the Salon piece and think it's really interesting. I don't see a problem with it, some questions evangelicals rarely ask themselves are: If Judas had not "betrayed" Christ, would Jesus have fulfilled the Scriptures, died on the cross, been able to offer salvation? Is God truly "not willing that any should perish but all should come to redeption?" and if so, what about Judas? Did he not create Judas, knowing that he would betray Jesus. Would that and the subsequent suicide condemn him to hell?

I suppose it's akin beatifying Satan for tempting Eve, so that sin would enter the world, and as a result, salvation. Someone's got to play devil's advocate, I guess.

Submitted by Cynthia on April 2, 2007 - 7:23pm.

Nice piece on the Gospel of Judas and Pagels' book and interview. The question of the inerrancy of the Bible has been of interest to me for many years, and after having read Pagels' The Gnostic Gospels, it confirmed (for me) that the Bible's metaphorical language is the least of its problems. As with most attempts to undermine any argument, one of the most popular is to show how it contradicts itself. Given the huge number of authors of the Bible, as Pagel also notes, it is impossible to resolve all the contradictions in it such that it is in-errant... without error (contradiction being considered such a huge logical error). Recently, on the Clemson campus, a group offering free Bibles set up a tent near the Student Union. As I neared their space, I noticed some of them were standing quietly offering to talk to students, but not aggressively approaching them. Simply waiting to be approached. One person, however, was pacing back and forth in front of them and jumped in my path and said, "Can I show you how the Bible is full of violence and contradictions?" I ignored him and looked at the Bible-giver and said, "Looks like you have some competition." He smiled and said, "We don't think so."

The question for me is whether the Bible offers comfort and spiritual guidance, not whether it is contradictory, metaphorical, violent, true, or whatever. Any time language is involved, the ineffable is present. My favorite Gnostic Gospel is one that you never hear about because the author is unknown, but it is widely believed to be written from a feminine perspective/deity. It's called Thunder, Perfect Mind. It is, in my view, about the ineffable nature of the divine and the need to embrace contra/diction.

Submitted by Jim Aune on April 3, 2007 - 3:49pm.

The problem here is with letting violently anti-intellectual southern evangelicals near the Bible. Jews recognize the inherent ambiguity of the Torah, multiple levels of interpretation; for example, the Oral Torah (later written down in the Mishnah and Talmud). The same code that urges the slaying of a man who lies with a man as with a woman also urges the slaying of a disobedient son; the rabbis point out that the second law was never enforced. The first law is interpreted by Orthodox gay men as only forbidding anal sex. The Lutheran hermeneutic principle that the preacher of the Word must know the distinction between Law and Gospel also is important. The first use of the Law is to convince us that we all are sinners in need of Divine Grace; another use is simply to provide for good order (and things that provide for good order in the first century might not necessarily be the same now, sociologically).

In re the Gnostic Gospels, I don't get the vogue. The Gnostics hated Creation, and "Catholic" normative Christianity that won out amongst competing sects, despite its seeming dislike of the flesh (arguably a Gnostic holdover--partially corrected at the Reformation) at least did not reject the body and this world as a work of the devil. For a sense of what Gnostic religion must have been like on the ground, see Emmanuel Roy Ladurie's beautiful book Montaillou: Promised Land of Error.